Comments for PhilDrysdale.com http://www.phildrysdale.com God looks like Jesus and so do you! Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:06:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 Comment on Tithing – The GREAT Commission by Phil Drysdale http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/02/tithing-the-great-commission/#comment-127372 Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:06:01 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3698#comment-127372 Glad you liked it – if you want to dive into the topic of the law in more depth you can check out http://www.thegracecourse.com as I have a whole series of videos on there you can watch for free :)

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Comment on What to do when the Bible says disabled people can’t come close to God? by Phil Drysdale http://www.phildrysdale.com/2017/11/bible-disabled-people-god/#comment-127371 Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:05:06 +0000 http://www.phildrysdale.com/?p=6225#comment-127371 Hi Katelyn,

I have a whole video series going into that you can watch for free on http://www.thegracecourse.com – it’s called “Is God Really Good?”

It’s about 3hrs but honestly – you need to commit that sort of time to do this subject justice. If I gave a quick answer on here it would probably only raise more questions!

But what the heck I’ll do it and you can check out the videos if it does is … you read the passages through the lens of Jesus. If Jesus perfectly represents God then when God doesn’t look like Jesus in the OT we know that his image has been warped in one way or another. It’s not that it isn’t necessarily God – it’s just it’s not a perfect representation of Him like Jesus is.

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Comment on The 3 Most Dangerous “Grace Movements” In The Church Today & How To Spot Them by Phil Drysdale http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/09/the-3-most-dangerous-grace-movements-in-the-church-today-how-to-spot-them/#comment-127370 Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:02:04 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3514#comment-127370 Amen, the cross is the final nail in the coffin of the argument that God works within economies of exchange. Violence being the most anti-Christ form of exchange.

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Comment on Tithing – The GREAT Commission by M Bell http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/02/tithing-the-great-commission/#comment-127369 Wed, 06 Dec 2017 17:55:21 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3698#comment-127369 thanks for all the “anti-law’ comments, they will be helpful. I also find law helpful to me to know places I should not go.

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Comment on What to do when the Bible says disabled people can’t come close to God? by Katelyn http://www.phildrysdale.com/2017/11/bible-disabled-people-god/#comment-127367 Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:06:54 +0000 http://www.phildrysdale.com/?p=6225#comment-127367 If that passage from the old testament is not accurate then how do we know which are God and which are not? Asking out of genuine curiosity. I really appreciate things I have read from your site thus far.

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Comment on The 3 Most Dangerous “Grace Movements” In The Church Today & How To Spot Them by SAY http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/09/the-3-most-dangerous-grace-movements-in-the-church-today-how-to-spot-them/#comment-127366 Wed, 06 Dec 2017 11:26:03 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3514#comment-127366 A sign of a false Christology is the false belief rooted in violence that the bloody murder of an innocent being results in anyone’s salvation. The belief in or practice of scapegoating and murder of the innocent does not lead to salvation. It is evil itself and a false teaching from a savage past. False Christology designed to salve the conscience of the guilty and relieve them of moral responsibility for their own lives is a perversion. True Grace is a proper endowment and nature given as a gift. It does not come by violence, blood sacrifice, devilry, demonic invasion, or savagery. Touch not the evil gift. Salvation does not come by blood and horror for anyone. It comes by the grace of proper endowment alone.

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Comment on Halloween Is Affecting Your Family More Than You Know by John Merrett http://www.phildrysdale.com/2017/10/halloween-effecting-family/#comment-127123 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 23:59:07 +0000 http://www.phildrysdale.com/?p=5968#comment-127123 Part of your blog reminded me of the attitude of the medieval monks concerning evil “The only way to be truly holy is to hide from it in case it rubs off on us” Thank God the Holy Spirit moved on Martin Luther 500 years ago, revealing that “The Just shall live by Faith”

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Comment on Has the church become satan? by george kavanagh http://www.phildrysdale.com/2017/10/has-church-become-satan/#comment-126578 Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:40:59 +0000 http://www.phildrysdale.com/?p=5490#comment-126578 I see the church as a meeting place without buying their particular brand. The Catholics told me the Protestants were going to hell. I went a Protestant church and they said the Catholics were going to hell. Some churches baptize babies, others do not. There is no right church, but I think the church of Satan is out. Just a guess on that.

Jesus did not say get behind me Peter because Jesus was taking to Satan. We are all agents of God and Satan. Having a good day today, but press me too hard and my lack of growth my open a door for Satan to use me. Still working out our salvation.

The world will accuse even Jesus, of being judgmental. They want to excuse their sin. Leave conversion anxiety to God. “Be still and know that I am God.” Avoid resenting everyone. “Love all fear none” (John G. Lake).

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Comment on Has the church become satan? by Marz http://www.phildrysdale.com/2017/10/has-church-become-satan/#comment-126566 Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:14:27 +0000 http://www.phildrysdale.com/?p=5490#comment-126566 Great post !

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Comment on Has the church become satan? by Will Zillmann http://www.phildrysdale.com/2017/10/has-church-become-satan/#comment-126558 Wed, 18 Oct 2017 04:13:46 +0000 http://www.phildrysdale.com/?p=5490#comment-126558 Very insightful Phil. Couldn’t agreee more. Heard a recent message from Danny Silk where he said the word for “accuser” in Rev 12 is the word katēgoreō – the word that we get ‘to categorise’ from. Unfortunately we have become very good at putting people into categories / boxes and so doing satan’s work for him. I find this incredibly sobering!

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Comment on 5 Five Minute Tips To Help You Get The Most Out Of The Bible by monica http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/02/5-five-minute-tips-to-help-you-get-the-most-out-of-the-bible/#comment-126353 Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:12:53 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3723#comment-126353 Thank you so much for giving us guidance. Much appreciated!
I wish churches had this information too to keep them in line.

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Comment on “It’s going to get better” and other stupid things we say to depressed people by Phil Drysdale http://www.phildrysdale.com/2015/05/its-going-to-get-better-and-other-stupid-things-we-say-to-depressed-people/#comment-125744 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:21:48 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4885#comment-125744 Bless you Sonny! Great to see how God has brought healing to a truly horrible situation. What a great gift to the world you are!

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Comment on “It’s going to get better” and other stupid things we say to depressed people by Sonny Jim Reeves http://www.phildrysdale.com/2015/05/its-going-to-get-better-and-other-stupid-things-we-say-to-depressed-people/#comment-125743 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 15:56:50 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4885#comment-125743 As a combat veteran being diagnosed with depression and PTSD with Anxiety attacks I climbed out only through the steadfast faith of my wife and God’s grace that led me to seek help. A wonderful doctor recognized my pain and I saw a caring doctor that only works with vets. By writing about my experiences and much prayer, many tears, we scraped the scabs off my wounds and applied God’s healing power. Every day is a battle but the war is won! We have dedicated the rest of our lives to being salt and light and washing the feet (metaphor) of service veterans. Semper Fi!

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Comment on Me vs. We: Learning to Live in the Spirit by Jesse http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/02/me-vs-we-live-in-the-spirit/#comment-125703 Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:08:36 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4943#comment-125703 Wow I’m so glad for you! That is the exact revelation that opened me up to experience His joy and peace and love and fellowship. Glad for you!

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Comment on What’s the role of the law in the New Covenant? by Phil Drysdale http://www.phildrysdale.com/2012/10/whats-the-role-of-the-law-in-the-new-covenant/#comment-123657 Tue, 02 May 2017 15:34:48 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=1974#comment-123657 Hi Virgie – you might like this article… phildrysdale.com/romans7 or if you want something more in depth take the identity module on my site The Grace Course (it’s free) and I go into it in much more depth.

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Comment on What’s the role of the law in the New Covenant? by Virgie http://www.phildrysdale.com/2012/10/whats-the-role-of-the-law-in-the-new-covenant/#comment-123630 Mon, 01 May 2017 15:28:16 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=1974#comment-123630 A Minister just told us to repeat the statement that we are sinners save by grace I struggle with that for the fact that if I am save by grace how can I call myself to be a sinner ? This seems to be a contradiction. Can you help me to understand better? Sorry I sound like an idiot.

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Comment on 37 Scriptures That Prove Christians Are Not Under The Law by Anonymous http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/37-scriptures-that-prove-christians-are-not-under-the-law/#comment-123039 Sat, 01 Apr 2017 22:11:05 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3561#comment-123039 The verse “you are not under the law but under grace” actually means you are still under the first, or obedience part of the law since grace is mentioned, which requires the Holy Spirit, which in turn requires law obedience just to acquire it according to Acts 2:38. Visit GracePlusLawKeepingSave.Us to better understand this.

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Comment on Biblical Rest is Not a Lack of Action by Martin http://www.phildrysdale.com/2015/11/biblical-rest-is-not-a-lack-of-action/#comment-117204 Thu, 21 Apr 2016 18:24:31 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4916#comment-117204 Gail 2 suggestions I would try what we call ‘soaking’ put on some gentle worship music lie down and simply ask God to come and love you. I would also highly recommend going to this website and booking into as many father heart events as you can, this will change everything for you (come to our event in York in August) Abba’s love for you depends upon his nature and not anything you do or don’t do! http://www.fatherheartministries.org.uk/

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Comment on The 3 Most Dangerous “Grace Movements” In The Church Today & How To Spot Them by Bill Dennington http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/09/the-3-most-dangerous-grace-movements-in-the-church-today-how-to-spot-them/#comment-117203 Thu, 21 Apr 2016 18:14:18 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3514#comment-117203 Without taking a whole lot of time to explain here, the basic element that many are missing about grace and the Finished Work of Christ is that there are two sides to redemption. There is the legal side, and there is the vital side.
From the legal side of the ledger, Christ did a complete and finished work and it was once, and for all, period. 2 Corinthians 5:17-21 makes it clear that God is not holding men’s sins against them for He has reconciled Himself to man through what Christ did on the Cross. Everything the New Testament says about our redemption in Christ is stated in the past tense. Such as “by His stripes we were healed.” 1 Peter 2:24.
But, the vital side of the ledger is what is most important for us today, we must receive what Christ has done which is a settled legal reality in Him. God still has to honor our choice. He will not force his grace on anyone. But, when we receive it, it becomes a living reality, a vital truth, in our lives and we are recreated in Christ Jesus! That is what the new birth accomplishes vitally in us when we receive Jesus as our Lord.
If Jesus had not done a complete and finished work of redemption through his death, burial, resurrection, and ascension then there would be some aspect of it that we would have to perform. But, since He did it all and did it for us and on our behalf, all there is to do is to receive it! That is grace, amazing grace, and it is available to all who will receive it!

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Comment on The 3 Most Dangerous “Grace Movements” In The Church Today & How To Spot Them by Ivan A. Rogers http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/09/the-3-most-dangerous-grace-movements-in-the-church-today-how-to-spot-them/#comment-117201 Thu, 21 Apr 2016 16:59:08 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3514#comment-117201 RECEIVING GOD’S GRACE WITHOUT ASKING OR KNOWING HIM…
I have often heard well-meaning Christians insist that one cannot expect to be “saved” without first “receiving” Christ as personal Savior. Here is the proof-text often used to make the above point: (Jn 1:12-13 (NASB)…
“But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.” However, these scripture verses read in context fall short of making the point intended. Christ actually identified with the doubters who failed to “receive him” and claimed them as “his own” (see vs. 11).

Notice, too, the surrounding context teaches that ALL human beings have “received” God’s grace, as follows:.. “FOR OF HIS FULNESS WE HAVE ALL RECEIVED, AND GRACE UPON GRACE” (John 1:16 NASB).
How wonderful to realize that all humanity “receive” free gifts of grace from the God of Love without asking him, or even knowing him, e.g., life, breath, sunshine, oxygen, intelligence, spirit, sustenance, relationships, love, and best of all ‘eternal life’ fully paid for by the Savior of the world: “God was reconciling the world [not just Christians] to himself IN CHRIST, not counting men’s sins against them [even the sin of not knowing him or asking him]. And he has committed to us the ministry of reconciliation” (2 Cor 5:19).

(An excerpt from a new book, Grace Nuggets Uncovered, by Ivan A. Rogers. See also Rogers’ website at: GoodReportMinistries.com).

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Comment on The Better Coming Of Christ… I Mean… The 2nd Coming of Christ by Sharon R Board http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/09/the-better-coming-of-christ-i-mean-the-2nd-coming-of-christ/#comment-117195 Thu, 21 Apr 2016 07:36:30 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3512#comment-117195 I agree Dennis, haha, good article…

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Comment on Is The Bible Really The Word of God? by mike ritchie http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/04/bible-really-word-god/#comment-117187 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:17:23 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3824#comment-117187 Jesus told the pharisees you search the scriptures and in them you think you have eternal life but you won’t come to me to have life. The letter killeth the spirit giveth life. There are people that preached for 39 years and finally got born again. THEY Never HEAR THE Word Until THEY Got Born again. Usually people that mock the message you wtote. Deny the power of god thereof. They say tongues are not for today prophecy is not for today. They certainly do not covet to prophecy. There are people all over the world that know jesus without a bible. The churches that thrive most in China . They are mainly without bibles at all. Satan knows the bible and also religious people. That foes not mean ypu know god at all.

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Comment on 37 Scriptures That Prove Christians Are Not Under The Law by judith http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/37-scriptures-that-prove-christians-are-not-under-the-law/#comment-117168 Mon, 18 Apr 2016 20:37:04 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3561#comment-117168 Dear leroy , a debt that is paid is no longer a debt. A law that has been fufilled is no longer binding, jesus has fufilled the law for everyone that believe. As far as believers are concerned they are dead to the law, because the law is not binding on a dead man . we as christians have died with christ.

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Comment on Why Christians Need To Stop Quoting Romans 3:23 by Pastor Haruna http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/06/christians-need-stop-quoting-romans-323/#comment-117142 Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:57:43 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4555#comment-117142 let us think on this pls
1. Justification comes in every case as a gift, not as a prize discovered or earned. “Being justified freely.” Part of the beneficial influence of the gospel is the blow it administers to human notions of desert, and pride is a chief obstacle to enrichment by this gift of God.

2. To all men the kindness of God is the source of their salvation. God first loved and sought the sinner, not contrariwise. His “grace” is the fountain of redemption.

3. The same Divine method of deliverance is employed for all. “Through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.” There is but one way to the Father, whether men walk thereon consciously or unconsciously, in heathen twilight or gospel noontide, in Jewish anticipation or Christian realization. The one atonement can cover all transgression. Pst Haruna

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Comment on The Danger of Balancing Grace by Mome Augustine http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/03/the-danger-of-balancing-grace/#comment-117108 Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:44:48 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3738#comment-117108 Dear Phil

This is such a blessing to understand GRACE. Many times, we confront people from the body of Christ who totally misinterprets GRACE. It is so important to present the Gospel in what it actually is – total & total, complete GOOD NEWS !. But some are presenting in a manner where GOOD NEWS becomes scarry. You are such a blessing to all of us who believe. Keep writing blogs as I love reading & absorbing your blogs as much as possible.

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Comment on Me vs. We: Learning to Live in the Spirit by Frank Lyle http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/02/me-vs-we-live-in-the-spirit/#comment-117084 Fri, 08 Apr 2016 10:03:55 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4943#comment-117084 Phil, just ran into your web site. WOW!!! I have been looking at Jesus all wrong. Been in church all my life but recently took a hard look and did not see Jesus as my personal savoir and Lord. Hard time feeling God’s love for me. For whatever reason read Revelations and came to see how unbelievable it is what Jesus did. Still struggled with faith. Your comments opened my eyes. It is all about Jesus, not me. I was trying to love Him to much, repent to much, have enough faith,etc.. All about me and adding to what Jesus did. Thank you. God used you for me to see that it is all Jesus. Now I want to think about what He did for me, not what I need to do for him. Thank you.

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Comment on 37 Scriptures That Prove Christians Are Not Under The Law by Vincent-Michael http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/37-scriptures-that-prove-christians-are-not-under-the-law/#comment-117081 Fri, 08 Apr 2016 01:27:16 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3561#comment-117081 did you use a bible for the verses. i could not find any of them in the bible.

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Comment on No One Has Ever Seen God… Really? by Curt Cecil http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/06/no-one-has-ever-seen-god/#comment-117079 Thu, 07 Apr 2016 20:47:51 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4533#comment-117079 I think that Abram, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses saw God as a man who appeared to them, that is, The Son veiled in human flesh as the angels likewise appeared to those in the OT. God appeared similarly to Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego as The Son veiled in human flesh in the fiery furnace. This wasn’t the same flesh that The Son took on when he was born to Mary through natural child birth, though. Moses, though he met with God face-to-face, desired to see God’s glory and he asked God for that because he knew that there was more to who he was talking to. But God only let Moses see his back. God probably saw The Father’s back . . . or perhaps The Spirit’s. Isaiah saw a vision like John did in his description in Revelation. God caused them to see a vision but they were probably not really seeing God. A vision is more like a dream of some sort rather than really seeing with your eyes. But even those who interacted with Jesus when He walked the earth, who did see him with their own eyes, did not get to see Him in His glory until a few saw him transfigured before them . . . and a few saw Him rise up into the clouds. So really, I think that no one has actually seen The Father or The Spirit . . . at least not from the front. Only Moses, who saw one of Their backs. Though many have seen The Son veiled in human flesh, OT and NT, only a few have seen him in His glory. I could be wrong . . . but it seems right to me.

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Comment on The difference between knowledge & wisdom by Asamoah Jerry Robert http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/07/the-difference-between-knowledge-wisdom/#comment-117074 Wed, 06 Apr 2016 08:58:04 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3402#comment-117074 come to Jesus and life will never been the same and you will be bless (Genesis 28:12_16)God told unto Jacob that in your dreams i will bless you and your entire family everything’s will be prosperity

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Comment on How do we love Jesus? by Paul Huffman http://www.phildrysdale.com/2015/11/how-do-we-love-jesus/#comment-117069 Tue, 05 Apr 2016 16:08:33 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4913#comment-117069 Just came across this site looking for an explanation to share on why we do not have a sin nature. Used the post on why we sin. I love the focus on His love for us first in this post as well. Keep up the good word, Phil. Thank you!

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Comment on 37 Scriptures That Prove Christians Are Not Under The Law by Mindy Lou http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/37-scriptures-that-prove-christians-are-not-under-the-law/#comment-117045 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 18:38:00 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3561#comment-117045 Phil, Unfortunately, Many believers today do not understand the in depth meaning of Gods Grace and the full glory of the new covenant. Only God himself through revelation can bring the understanding of grace upon them, It is sad, I’ve realized all this turns into is throwing scripture back and forth. I believe we are gonna see a last harvest and revival soon as we are nearing the time of going home. I pray that truth and Gods Grace becomes strongly relieved in these last days only to increase the Glory that belongs to God.

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Comment on Women – The Reason Men Lust by Daniel http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/09/women-the-reason-men-lust/#comment-117038 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 03:28:24 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3503#comment-117038 I would like to pose the question: what is lust? I think many times we equate lust with attraction/sexual desire, but those things are natural and God-given. God wired men to be visually attracted to women. I’m not saying we should ogle them. In fact, I’m not saying anything at all, just posing a question that I haven’t fully figured out yet.

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Comment on 19 Powerful Quotes on Faith & Theology by Bill Johnson by Ed Clark http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/06/19-powerful-quotes-on-faith-theology-by-bill-johnson/#comment-117020 Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:24:58 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3361#comment-117020 I am always blessed by Bill Johnson!

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Comment on Tithing – The GREAT Commission by Donna http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/02/tithing-the-great-commission/#comment-116939 Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:49:29 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3698#comment-116939 We hit a wall with no longer being able to keep up the payments on 6 credit cards that we were using to support 4 adults on one income, as well – or maybe you could say 5, 1 son, who has wife and daughter, who we started when he started back to school when they were expecting their last child – that they then lost, so we had added expenses of going – and taking them – back and forth to the hospital one and a half hours away – we learned later, but too late, there could have been help for those expenses but we didn’t get it; he finished school but took a while to get the job thing going then they had moved into a bad neighborhood, the only place they could afford a place big enough that they’d understood they had to have in order to bring the last one home, before everything happened, but after that happened and then after some other things happened – or at least almost – to the one they do have, it was time to get out, and a house opened up right at that time close to us, with the only thing being it was going to cost another $200 a month that they couldn’t afford so we agreed to help them with that, so rocked along for about or a little over a year, till he ended up having to get – or being forced but really needed to anyway so again worked out at just the right time – out of a shady situation with job but with a cut in income so started helping more then but things did turn around and get better but right at the time had to use the money that was supposed to go to pay for college tuition for other son, just not right then, for the next upcoming semester, to tide them over with the job change and all, with that being right as the interest started being charged on the balance transfer no interest for a year card we got which is when we then could really no longer make the payments on the card but got another one to use to do so till it finally all stopped; I had talked to our local bank which has an arrangement with a debt management company to go that route plus though at one point when I was in there they told me they had for the first time in like 30 yrs. double how much unsecured loans you could have with them, which would have allowed us to roll all the credit cards into that except that wouldn’t let us do it unless we gave them our house while then in the meantime when we really could no longer make the payments on the cards they sent us to some other debt management companies they work with, which is what’s really led to this post – one in particular when they saw what they saw as just giving that much money to our church – they didn’t call it tithing as a bill, just giving the very amount that was our deficit – they said they wouldn’t feel free to contact our credit card companies and ask for any type of concession as long as we were doing that, that if we couldn’t pay our bills we didn’t need to be giving that amount to our church –

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Comment on Why do I sin? by sandrine http://www.phildrysdale.com/2011/04/why-do-i-sin/#comment-116884 Thu, 17 Mar 2016 06:16:32 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=47#comment-116884 Thank you very much for the information. May God fill you with more from him. Amen.

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Comment on Romans 7: Did Paul struggle with a sinful nature? by Taylor Brawner http://www.phildrysdale.com/2011/11/romans-7-did-paul-struggle-with-a-sinful-nature/#comment-116862 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:31:58 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=648#comment-116862 Did Peter, as an apostle, not deny Jesus (a SIN) three times, AFTER knowing Him? Did Paul, as an apostle, not declare himself chiefest of SINNERS (sinners SIN, by the way), AFTER knowing Him? Did King David, as a king of God, not sleep with another man’s wife (adultery and fornication are SINS), impregnate her (while SINNING), then try to deceive (deceit is SIN) that man to hide his [David’s] SIN (not confessing sin is SIN), lie (lying is a SIN) to that man, betray (betrayal is SIN) that man, and then have that man killed (murder is a SIN), AFTER knowing God? Did Noah, being the most righteous man of his day, not get drunk (drunkenness is SIN) immediately after God SAVED him from the Flood?
Your righteousness is as filthy rags unto God, you filthy, lying, prideful, anti-Christ rag of a SINNER! I rebuke you and your false teachings, you wolf in sheep’s clothing false prophet servant of satan. You can masquerade, but you are not perfect. Only Christ can make that claim. You don’t even use the KJV. Shame on you and your New World philosophies. Good luck being perfect enough to enter Heaven. Sarcasm intended!

1 John 1:8-10 KJV
“8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.” ~

You say you have no sin. You deceive yourself. The truth is not in you.
You need to confess your sins. You know what they are. Stop pretending you are perfect. That’s at least one sin, right there: pride. And we all know what comes after pride: a fall.
You make Christ a liar (another sin). His word is not in you.

PS- you can save you lengthy lie of an explanation. God’s Word is good enough for me. Your opinion means jack-diddly. You are destroying Christ and making yourself a god; setting yourself on high. Shame on you.

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Comment on 37 Scriptures That Prove Christians Are Not Under The Law by tom king http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/37-scriptures-that-prove-christians-are-not-under-the-law/#comment-116697 Sun, 06 Mar 2016 01:28:41 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3561#comment-116697 I loved what you are about . grace is what Paul said in the Bible ! I have got so many friends that still thank we are under law . it’sso sad iI got the true when I started looking Joseph prince . in 2009 I got many of his books on grace . I’m reading now 100 days of favor it’s so good . I can’t wait to get your book . daddy God bless us all. .

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Comment on Irrefutable Proof That God Is Not In Control Of Everything by Thomas Jay Oord http://www.phildrysdale.com/2015/01/god-is-not-in-control/#comment-116609 Wed, 02 Mar 2016 16:58:05 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4830#comment-116609 Phil,

Thanks for your good blog!

Have you come across my new book, The Uncontrolling Love of God (IVP Academic)? I argue that God is not in control, because God’s nature is uncontrolling love. Much of what you’ve written above coincides with my book.

Curious,

Tom

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Gahigi http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116575 Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:33:10 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116575 Jesus was not nice. He didn’t need guns but He had them so to speak if you consider that He had supernatural weapons. He told his disciples near the end before he went to the cross to pick up a sword. Plus his angels have flaming swords. His word was also a weapon stopping the Pharisees in their tracks until he let them put Him on the cross. After He rose from the dead He knocked Paul off his horse (I don’t call that a gentle Jesus). And he used Paul or Peter(can’t remember which right now) to cause a sorcerer to be blind for a season because he’s trying to thwart the preaching of the gospel. In Revelation we see Him being protective and He’s not happy with Jezebel and personally to protect the innocent I’d kill the attacker then raise him from the dead maybe. I mean it’s an option. If someone tried to attack me they might back off if they saw angels but God could just as well have me use a gun. We can either use supernatural weapons or natural but they have their place. If God can use all things to make them work together for our good then that should include using guns especially if they further the preaching of the gospel. Some Christians with “little faith” or even more perhaps want/need guns.

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Comment on 19 Powerful Quotes on Faith & Theology by Bill Johnson by Maggie http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/06/19-powerful-quotes-on-faith-theology-by-bill-johnson/#comment-116522 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 14:56:47 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3361#comment-116522 Hey Phil-Thanks so much for your site!!!
When I view your site today, it looks like the 19 quotes are not actively linked/showing????
Was going to send you a general message about the global legacy link not working too, though I did find GL when I googled it.
My original reason for visiting today (love your site/mission): I was looking for some quotes Bill did on Apostleship (the apostle like anointing?) in the body. I vaguely recall the series or teaching(s) he did on this subject. Have you run across any?

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Mari http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116512 Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:06:02 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116512 Well said! We need to remember that it’s what is going on in someone heart that causes “murder” not guns. Its also a very sensitive subject unless you’re living in the midst of all this chaos. My two daughters and their families live in Baltimore and my oldest who is a small very pale Caucasian women with long red hair works smack downtown in a rage popular hotel working the front desk and office. She watched the riots and was forbidden by hotel management and police to leave the hotel unless being driven home. It was terrible as a parent to not be able to help her but as said above my trust was in Jesus protecting her. There’s nothing wrong with having firearms. If you read history you’ll see that every country that has given up firearms has been taken over militarily. If people in those theatres in Paris had had firearms many would have lived and not been attached. They were sitting ducks as the terrorist knew already.

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Comment on 37 Scriptures That Prove Christians Are Not Under The Law by Prince George Mugabo http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/37-scriptures-that-prove-christians-are-not-under-the-law/#comment-116509 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:39:04 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3561#comment-116509 Hello

Phil thanks for 37 scriptures!

Amazing truth though to hard for those that have drunk old wine for along time….. Its takes God’s Grace for them to receive New wine
Luke 5:36_39

Grace all the Way

Phil what is your view about a Christian paying Tithe?

God bless
Thanks

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Comment on 8 lies that many Christians believe by Teresa Garner http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/05/8-lies-that-many-christians-believe/#comment-116472 Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:56:58 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3213#comment-116472 I am so glad that you included that God does nor make us sick to teach us a lesson. I was hit head on 13 years ago and my firewall pushed in and my knees went through the dash. After a year of physical therapy, I was able to walk short distances without a cane or walker on good days, on bad days I could only shuffle my feet a few inches at a time, if any. I was 34 and needed 2 total knee replacements. I had a family to provide for, so disability wasn’t a financial option, but those surgeries needed to wait until I was at least 55 because there wasn’t enough bone for all of the additional surgeries after that point. The bone, muscle, and nerve damage it excruciating and I often wake up screaming out as the bones shift even in my sleep (all cartilage was removed because it exploded on impact.) My faith is the only thing that has gotten me through these years.

I can’t tell you all of the rude comments that I have heard over the years from all of those “well meaning Christians” that felt they needed to spread God’s word. I have been told it was God punishing me and trying to set me on the right path, that it will be OK because God doesn’t give us more than we can handle (I just needed to toughen up), it was meant to be because God knows what we needed in our lives and when we need it, if my faith was stronger God would heal me, I wasn’t living right or he would have spared me the pain, that I needed to give God more if I expected God’s healing hands to help me – more tithe!!! Then there were the ones that would lecture me on KARMA!

I had 1 TKR several months ago and the motor blew on my car. To get back home, I had to walk 4 blocks from the shop to the bus line on city a street with no businesses, weeks after my surgery with my wheeled walker! Every 20 feet I had to stop and sit. My face and neckline of shirt was soaked in tears. After 3 blocks, there was a church. I couldn’t make it any further. As I neared, a truck almost hit me, then parked on the curb in front of the church. I kept moving forward as he got out, holding his Bible and he looked me straight in eyes as I started to say “Help.” and he talked over me and said, “God is great, ain’t He?” He rushed pass and made a b-line for the front door. He never even looked back. It took me almost 2 hrs to get to that bus stop, but I made it!

Over these years, my faith has been tested, but it remained. My faith in humanity has been shattered. Please keep sharing your message with fellow Christians. They need to know how much their words hurt. Think of all of the disabled that get lost in these messages and let the depression swallow them, or even make them feel suicidal.

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Comment on Irrefutable Proof That God Is Not In Control Of Everything by Chess Player http://www.phildrysdale.com/2015/01/god-is-not-in-control/#comment-116467 Mon, 15 Feb 2016 16:15:35 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4830#comment-116467 Of course God is in control. He does what He pleases (Ps 115:3). He has the last word in all things and will not allow the devil or man to thwart His plans. However, it is true that He allows men to have free will and do whatever they please providing they don’t interfere with His overall plan.

He is the Sovereign God and sits on the throne. God is in control, but He doesn’t control all things. As an example, He doesn’t control what time I get up in the morning or if I choose to go to work and call in sick. He does not control me, nor does He control men, but ultimately He is in control.

Job 1-2 is a prime example how God allowed the devil to do so much but not more. Paul, was not allowed to speak the word in Asia and the Spirit did not allow him to go to Bithynia (Acts 16:6-7) because He had other plans.

Jonah is another example of God’s Sovereignty and the one who holds ultimate control over the affairs of men. At the end Jonah the prophet did what God wanted him to do because God’s love for the people of Nineveh was far greater than Jonah’s stubbornness.

The people of Nazareth wanted to throw the Lord off the cliff, but they couldn’t (Lk 4:29-30) because it was not God’s will for Messiah to die in the hands of some irate thugs at that particular time. Who controlled the outcome in this situation? God did…

I could go on, but I think that’s enough. In my opinion, it is a dangerous trend to specifically say that creation is not under the control of His creator. If He is not, who is?

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Comment on 10 Reasons People Think Christians Are Hypocrites by Santha Kumar http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/05/christians-are-hypocrites/#comment-116451 Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:38:29 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4139#comment-116451 Very good site.Thanks.

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Comment on Come Holy Spirit by Katherine http://www.phildrysdale.com/2011/05/come-holy-spirit/#comment-116368 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 19:54:52 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=145#comment-116368 I too think that when people in church ask the Holy Spirit to “come” to their gathering, they are merely expressing their wish for Him to manifest His presence to them while they are gathered together to worship. I think the Lord is gracious enough to us through His love for us, that He understands the desires of our hearts. Of course He does, He is God!!! We already know that He DWELLS (permanently resides) in us! But do we always “feel” His presence? No. Even David wrote in Psalms, asking the Lord

“Do not cast me away from Your presence, And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.” Psalm 51:11

So If David asked that of God, why would we also not ask Him to give us His presence as well? God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit discern our hearts desire. I think it is ok, if we use the word “come” as opposed to “welcome” … We are only human. :-)

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Comment on Is everyone already saved? by Mark James http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/is-everyone-already-saved/#comment-116366 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 18:15:24 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3542#comment-116366 Phil,
Can you please clarify from Scripture if people “can be forgiven” or people “are forgiven”?
Thank you for stimulating my mind and stirring my spirit.

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Comment on What’s the role of the law in the New Covenant? by Tom http://www.phildrysdale.com/2012/10/whats-the-role-of-the-law-in-the-new-covenant/#comment-116364 Mon, 01 Feb 2016 12:35:12 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=1974#comment-116364 Phil, what about the Mormons who have a constant stream of new law from their prophets? I think you would say that those “new” laws are also dead (in addition to false perhaps). It strikes me that this is a particularly powerful way of communicating with Mormons. If we first understand that all law is dead, it makes discussion of whether or not said laws are “true” or not a moot point. Do you have any ideas on how these “new” laws, in this context, ought to be approached by Christians?

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Comment on 10 Things Jesus Didn’t Say About Healing by Dorothy http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/01/10-things-jesus-didnt-say-about-healing/#comment-116317 Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:41:14 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3637#comment-116317 Is it permissible to share this article on FB?

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Comment on 10 Things Jesus Didn’t Say About Healing by Dorothy http://www.phildrysdale.com/2014/01/10-things-jesus-didnt-say-about-healing/#comment-116316 Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:26:16 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3637#comment-116316 You need to be a soldier in God’s army and fight! Go into your “War Room” and pray…. REALLY hard….. It would also be beneficial to get a Prayer chain going…

(Thank You Jesus for being our Healer…. actually I’ll change that to, “Thank You, Jesus, for being our Health! Glory to God!)

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Comment on 37 Scriptures That Prove Christians Are Not Under The Law by Dorothy http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/37-scriptures-that-prove-christians-are-not-under-the-law/#comment-116304 Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:03:45 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3561#comment-116304 I love the 37 scriptures proving Christians are not under the law! I have one question… You stated that Christians are not under the law… but is not the whole world not under the law? I know that one must believe Jesus and His perfect work and receive it for oneself. So everyone is saved but not everyone is going to heaven. “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.” So salvation is available to all mankind but one does not reap the benefit of it until it is personally believed and received.

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Comment on 37 Scriptures That Prove Christians Are Not Under The Law by jah http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/37-scriptures-that-prove-christians-are-not-under-the-law/#comment-116266 Thu, 21 Jan 2016 22:16:58 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3561#comment-116266 very helpful!

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Comment on 6 Ways You May Be Incorrectly Reading Your Bible. by Betty Womble http://www.phildrysdale.com/2015/01/6-ways-may-incorrectly-reading-bible/#comment-116249 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 13:55:39 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4838#comment-116249 One thing I have learned is that just because the Scripture says something will happen, doesn’t mean God makes it happen. We are just being told what will be. When I learned this, it took my perception of a wrathful God and made it into the kind, loving God He is. He is warning, not saying, “I’m gonna get you for this”. And the fact that I used to think that He was so hard on Israel, not realizing the time difference. He would warn for hundreds of years before removing His protective hand and letting Israel have what she was asking for in her rebellion. Now, I don’t see Him as a vengeful God, but as One Who loves and tries to get His people to turn back to HIm instead of reaping disaster.

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Comment on 4 Keys To Cultivating A Deeper Relationship With God by Betty Womble http://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/09/4-keys-to-cultivating-a-deeper-relationship-with-god/#comment-116248 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 13:37:41 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=3521#comment-116248 Thank you, Phil for your teachings that are so clear and easy to understand!! I am able to do all these to deepen my relationship with God except one….. I can find no one in my area who believes Grace as it is taught in the Word except my sister who is on the same quest I am.. Would you believe I even put an ad in our paper that goes to every home in 3 counties for anyone who listens to Andrew Wommack and/or Joseph Prince and got no responses. My former pastor (he has gone to another church and we are without one at the present) refused to even read or listen to them!!!! So, in answer to the question, “Who do you admire for their relationship with God?”, I can only say, “Phil Drysdale, Andrew Wommack and Joseph Prince”… Can I hang out with you???? Thank you, again. I will continue to seek out teachers like you and trust God to bring the “Grace Revolution” to North Alabama!!!! Blessings…

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Bill Jones http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116232 Sun, 17 Jan 2016 21:08:24 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116232 By your thinking we all (Christians) should just commit suicide and go to be with the Lord.Not to mention the fact No greater Love has a man then he lay down his life for another. P.S. If you read the Old Testament God told people to kill them all more than once ,I do believe he called them enemies .

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Chris http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116230 Sun, 17 Jan 2016 13:44:45 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116230 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”

There are two points I would like to make.

The first is regarding our lives, our rights, and 1 Peter. As it stands in the United States, we have the right to own weapons. Unfortunately, most American Christians get their idol, the Constitution, the flag, the soil… mixed up with their theology. If the states legally eliminated the Second Amendment (true story, it CAN be stricken legally!), Christians would have to honor that law as per 1 Peter. Guns and weapons are simply not mandated by the Bible and therefore I can’t see any justification to break the law, were that law to ever actually come into being.

The second is the fact that Christ showed us how to have compassion. He taught us to love our neighbors as ourselves (this includes gays, murderers, and Democrats [read:humor here]), but He also teaches us that not all is kind, happy feelings. When He returns it will be the violent destruction of His enemies. He even commanded his disciples to sell their tunics to buy a sword. We are not meant to lay down and die for no reason. If we are to be persecuted for Christ, it is very different than defending yourself or another during a robbery.

There is nothing wrong with resisting evil (in the sense of protecting life), true pacifists will allow their families to be butchered; their wives and daughters to be raped. There is nothing Christian about that. The same God that teaches us to not get angered when someone wrongs us also sent His people to slaughter His enemies. While we don’t slaughter enemies anymore, I think it is wise to not confuse insult with murder and rape. Don’t confuse personal retribution with defending one’s life. They are totally separate matters. I would be wrong to get into a name calling argument or to slander you behind your back. I would be wrong to slash your tires after we had a heated debate. I would not be wrong for shooting a violent person who was killing kids at a school.

TLDR;

Yes, American Christians tend to be idolatrous about Constitutional issues. Christians around the world have OTHER sins of their own to worry about. But let’s keep these two issues separate. The Bible does not call us to pacifism nor does it call us to fight for our political views or to make God’s law into a secular law. We shouldn’t force our beliefs on the populace, nor should we believe that we aren’t allowed to defend ourselves IN LEGAL WAYS using the government-granted laws that we do have. If those laws are taken away, it would be our duty to follow THOSE new laws, even if that meant losing our current right to defend ourselves.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Judith http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116187 Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:38:34 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116187 The New Testament is largely a series of documents condemning the Roman rule, albeit at times in carefully ‘coded’ words that only Christians would understand. Paul’s writings constantly contrast God’s way of bringing peace through love with the Roman way of bringing peace through violence.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Jim palmer http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116180 Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:23:33 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116180 Phil, Words matter. Your use of the word violence in the context of self defence is erroneous. According to the Oxford English dictionary1Using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something:a violent confrontation1Law Involving an unlawful exercise or exhibition of force.
I have a loaded gun that I hope and pray I never have to use. I will never use it to be violent however I would not hesitate to use it to protect my life or my family from violence against us by a person or government that would threaton our lives. It is of course the responsibility of our government to protect against violent aggressors and above all to protect human life. In the same way out of obligation to value and hold God given life in the womb to the tomb, we must value life as much as God does. So yes, I am wiling to sacrifice my life if need be to defend and protect my life and my family from violence and with a clear conscience before God. I’m glad Winston Churchill and the millions who sacrificed their lives to stop evil violence understood their God given responsibility to resist evil and violence or we possibly wouldn’t be free today to have this discussion much less even be here today.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Warren C http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116179 Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:29:53 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116179 robe dipped in blood = shed blood of Christ (note – robe is bloody before any action begins)
“From his MOUTH comes a sharp sword” = words of judgement, obviously figurative
Tread the wine press = blood of the martyrs that fuel God’s judgement

Revelation 19 needs to be interpreted in light of the rest of the New Testament (and the rest of Revelation for that matter). Christ conquers through suffering and sacrifice. The slaughtered Lamb has already overcome through his death. The battle has already been won at the cross. The violence of Babylon and the Beast are rejected and overcome ” by the blood of the Lamb and word of our testimony”. Nowhere in Revelation are Christians ever authorized to act violently or take revenge. Completely consistent with the radical non-violence of the Gospels and Epistles.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Dan http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116178 Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:41:40 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116178 I totally agree with your statement. As a fellow Aussie, I simply can’t get my head around the gun culture of the US and the pro-gun arguments of so many Americans. Why does the United States have such a high level of gun-related violence and deaths? Because they have a gun culture. If the United States is such a dangerous place that everyone needs a gun to protect themselves, who on earth would want to live there? What a horrible, fear-filled place it must be. Protection in your own country is for the police force, and protection from without is for the military. I’m totally ok for police officers and soldiers to carry firearms, and I’m quite content in letting them do their job rather than carrying a gun myself. I’m not afraid of being hurt by someone with a gun – I don’t know anyone who has one and I’m fairly sure most people in Australia don’t own a gun. We don’t have a gun culture here and as a result, we have relatively few gun-related deaths. Certainly gun-related massacres just don’t happen here, not since Port Arthur. If America wants to reduce gun-related deaths, get rid of your gun culture. It’s not rocket science guys, just common sense.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Peter Llewellyn http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116176 Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:17:44 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116176 When Jesus returns it will be with an army – of love alone, their only weapon. There’s a price to pay for being God; and Jesus pays it willingly. Those who choose to walk with him pay that price too, at the cost of their own lives if need be. It’s called carrying your cross. It never changes; but the final victory is assured, not because of power, nor because of might, but because of My Spirit, says the Lord. This particular gate is narrow, and not too many go through it – I couldn’t blame anyone who says it’s too hard; it probably is.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by John Osborne http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116175 Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:29:53 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116175 In the UK we have an unarmed police force, (who can call on tactical firearms officers, in the rare event of confronting an armed suspect) 10 years ago following a single school tragedy, (Dunblane) all privately held legal handguns were surrendered (I handed in 3 myself). Less people (total numbers or % of population) will be killed in the UK by firearms or any other means of violence in 2016, than have died from a bullets in the USA this year already (10 January) the US citizens are addicted to being fearful, and the arms industry & military feed their addiction, and the TV networks feed on the tragedy, The US lost interest in going to the moon after 3 trips, it’s only the evere increasing body count of children that makes the headline. 1 tragedy was enough for the UK….

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Richard, Ben's mate http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116171 Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:24:53 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116171 Luke 22:

35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”

“Nothing,” they answered.

36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37 It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’[b]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That’s enough!” he replied.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Joy Elliott http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116169 Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:50:40 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116169 Jesus preached a doctrine of love, love, love. When He returns, it will be in the clouds, surrounded by angels and with the trump of God. (I Thess. 4:16). Until then, Satan is the prince of this world (John 14: 30) and will do his utmost to spread his wickedness, knowing he has but a short time. (Rev.12). Until Christ returns, we have to make sure we are on the right side and are ready to meet our Lord, whether that may be when He returns or whether He takes us before then.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Matt http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116168 Sun, 10 Jan 2016 08:13:32 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116168 The issue being highlighted here is gun control in the USA. Note it is gun ‘control’, not the abolition of guns from the face of the earth. Not the removal of guns from soldiers who protect us from evil. In the UK we have gun control. You don’t see ordinary people walking down the shopping isles packing a glock ready to shoot someone by the check out. Parts of the police force don’t have guns, yet other parts do. Indeed lots of criminals don’t have guns either – because they are controlled. In the same way you can go to the shops without fear that someone is going to shoot you! You can take your kids to school without fear that someone is going to shoot them while they are there. Guns are controlled, not abolished or abandoned altogether. There is a difference.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Judy http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116167 Sun, 10 Jan 2016 00:38:57 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116167 Thank God! A voice of sanity at last!

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Pattistebbins http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116164 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 20:50:36 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116164 I agree with you. If I was being attacked by an evil person and my husband stood by and did nothing where is his love towards me? For him to standby and do nothing has nothing to do with martyrdom.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Rosbif http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116163 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 17:32:54 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116163 True, the Bible has little on guns, not least as they weren’t invented nor imagined by the bronze-agers that wrote the stories.
A large pile of stones however, would have been useful to dish out many of the killings prescribed by Jehovah for any imagined transgression.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Nicholas http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116162 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 16:01:40 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116162 I think I will take moral preening any day after that vision of a vengeful God as described in Revelation. Why that book made it (narrowly) into the canon, I will never know? Just shows even Church councils can be deluded.

But to the main point – it is important to consider who carries the weapons? Here (in the UK) gun control laws are onerous, police can be armed under certain circumstances but not the general population. Result much lower gun crime than in the US. People in the US seem to fear ‘terrorism’ but more people die in accidents, random crime and from the domestic ‘deranged’ than from terrorism. So who precisely is being protected?

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Dan http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116159 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 13:52:43 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116159 I think this article fails the Comment Policy outlined at the bottom of the comment section.

Calling others utterly insane and saying, “We already have enough people in the church presenting God as a nutcase… We don’t need more fuel on the fire!” does nothing to speak life over those you are addressing, nor does it build up, and is a disrespectful approach to making your point.

I think the article should be removed as it fails the test. (And this has nothing to do with whether or not I agree with your point.)

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Richard http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116158 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 13:18:38 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116158 “Jesus in all his teachings was off the scale non-violent…”
Really? He certainly wasn’t non-violent in all his actions.
“And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables.”
John 2:15

Many Christians fought against the Nazis in WW2. Is there really no circumstance in which it is right for Christians to take up arms?

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Mark http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116156 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:21:47 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116156 So, what I am hearing is that the police should never have shot and killed the San Bernardino shooters. They should have just…what?
Unless it’s ok for them to use violence to stop people from doing harm.
So, if someone had a gun on your child, even if you have the means to stop it, you shouldnt. But it’s ok for someone else to do it for you.
Hmm, that’s like saying, God, I won’t steal that because it’s wrong, but I will have someone steal it for me. And that’s ok.
I don’t think so.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by John from Florida http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116155 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 03:02:23 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116155 Biblical, maybe not but We are at war. We are not talking about muggers here but people that are killing strangers. Terrorism works on Americans. Rather than give in to fear I think a lot of good people have decided to defend their families of need be.

Would Jesus pack heat? No way. Should we choose to not resist evil and just lay down and die like sheep? Probably. Am I willing to watch my family get murdered if I have the power to stop it? You betcha!

So, am I a bad Christian? Is every Sailor, Soldier, Airman, Policeman and any other defender of the weak going to hell for that choice?

I think at some point we have to use our brains. We believe in a fused who is good all the time. At some point we need to decide whether we are on the side of good and willing to defend it or do we really leave it to Billy Bob with his AK and rebel flag or maybe Ahmed and crew making people become suicide bombers.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by M http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116154 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 01:12:20 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116154 ??

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by bryan http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116153 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 01:07:25 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116153 I’m surprised that you took up this topic. It’s kind of like preaching on sin. It’s adding to the list of do’s and don’ts. It’s ‘what would Jesus do’ rather than ‘what has Jesus done.’
I think it is a cart before the horse kind of issue. Let’s focus on allowing the Holy Spirit of God living inside us to express His life through us. Everything else will take care of itself.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Bob Murray http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116152 Sat, 09 Jan 2016 00:08:18 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116152 I’ve followed you through alot of great grace teaching. But this sounds more like law than liberty, Phil. The law of our land (USA) proclaims a person’s right to arms, primarily to hold governments (both foreign and domestic) accountable and also for defense of life.

When his kin were taken captive and the people of his region’s possessions taken, Abraham did not call the police. He took 318 trained men of his own household, armed them, and went forth to victory with the blessing the blessing of God.

Our US constitutional rights are being eroded without due process. Working within the laws of our land, I will stand against such invasion, particularly when it would have done nothing to prevent the instances which prompted same.

Can’t follow you on this one.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by John Maddams http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116151 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 23:38:10 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116151 Where did Jesus ever condemn the Roman soldiers for carrying arms or using them?
He recognised the lines of authority both God’s and Caesar’s, but he did teach us all to love one another including our enemies. One day when he returns from Heaven to rule and reign on Earth, there will be no more war, use of weapons, or murders, because all people will obey His rules and abide by the laws of Yahweh [ God ]. Those who refuse will be quietly disarmed and eliminated. It wont be a democracy but a theocracy where the will of God will be obeyed.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Jeff Featherstone http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116150 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 23:24:18 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116150 ‘Not even Jesus can TALK men into being peaceful if they don’t want to be’.

So not even the son of God can, by His mighty word, talk people into being peaceful if it was his will for them to do so?

Wow, seems like a pretty weak Jesus that you believe in.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Jacob http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116149 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 23:24:14 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116149 “He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. [14] And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. [15] From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.” (Revelation 19:12-15 ESV)

Jesus in NOT *ultimately* “non-violent”.
He does not *ultimately* value other lives above His own.
He is not *ultimately* an altruist or a pacifist.

Be careful with your moral preening, lest you blaspheme His *ultimate* ends.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Anthony Golden http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116148 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 23:11:02 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116148 The question isn’t whether a governing or policing authority should have guns, it is whether a Christian should. Big difference. and I believe that the idea that non violent Christians are arguing that governments should not wage war is a straw man fallacy.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Rey http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116147 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 22:17:30 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116147 Hey Phil,
Come and take it.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Rhonda http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116146 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 21:54:36 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116146 As a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, I do not fear death. The spirit of God who dwells within me, gives me freedom to love all not fear any. That is some amazing grace cause I used to think otherwise.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by John http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116145 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 21:12:59 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116145 Israel like every other secular state does not derive its law or strategy from the Bible. What is more given the civil situation is a very poor example.

If you love God, if you trust him as Your saviour, why do you not trust him with your life too. Clearly you don’t trust Him with your safety. God is our refuge. If you should be so unfortunate as to be attacked and killed, are you not ready togo to be with Jesus.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Bevie http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116144 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 21:12:51 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116144 Its great to see you back Phil. However, I believe first your post is somewhat controversial, depending on where the reader lives.

For those outside of the US, we don’t ‘get’ the gun culture the people in America have. We don’t seem to have a fear that, at any moment, someone wants to take our lives, our liberty and our freedoms and we need a semi automatic weapon to protect ourselves and our family. For those of us outside the US, we have stopped crying over babies and little children who are killed by mass shootings or by accidental shootings when they are playing with loaded weapons, instead we merely shake our heads and wonder if Americans will ever put down their obsession with guns. And those outside the US throw up our hands when we hear their president wants background and mental health checks on people buying guns and people immediately act as if he is a dictator, taking away their most precious possessions.

I’m an Aussie and the closest I’ve ever been to a gun is when I see police officers who have them on their holsters. My biggest thought is that they look heavy. My husband learned to fire one when he was in the Air Force but has no desire to go hunting or even fire them at targets for fun.

Maybe I would have a different opinion on guns if I had one pointed at me. I honestly don’t know. I’d like to think I could be a martyr I wouldn’t know unless I was in that position.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Adam http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116143 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 20:19:33 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116143 “But I understand if you are not rooted in your identity as a Supernaturally protected child of God that the natural world can be a fearful place”

What do you mean by this? Are you saying that God protects his children from the problems and sufferings of the “natural” world?

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Kerry http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116142 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 19:30:12 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116142 Tell that to all the Christians in the middle east that are being executed. I do not faer death because I know who I belong to but I will not ever be a helpless victim. David wiped out whole villages and the people of Israel took land by force. The cross changed how I have a relationship with God. It did not change God.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Kevin http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116141 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 19:18:35 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116141 I agree totally Phil. This issue has always bugged me. It is the easiest way to start a fight on Facebook though. Lol. Phil, will you please debunk the common remark “well Jesus want all roses and pink balloons. He turned over tables and charred people with whips.” People think he was violent and ignore the whole gospel, which is love. How do you respond to these type of people?

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Kevin http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116140 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 19:12:43 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116140 Well said!

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Travis Krouse http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116138 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 16:12:45 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116138 Hey Phil,

It’s good to see you posting more teachings. I always appreciate your insights and have been encouraged by your teachings on grace. I was just wondering if you had a chance to watch John Crowder’s Jesus Trip video on pacifism he posted last year. I’m curious to know your points of agreement/disagreement.

Love you brother, hope you are blessed!

Travis

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Some Guy http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116136 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:41:38 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116136 This line of thinking assumes that guns in the hands of a Christian equals more violence. What it misses is that a balance of power can prevent violence. I’ve seen it first hand: Group of guys out to do harm approaches loan man, man displays a firearm, group leaves. No fight, no shots, no violence. If he hadn’t been carrying that day I strongly believe he would have been hospitalized or killed.

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Comment on God will not convict believers of sin! by Jeremy J http://www.phildrysdale.com/2012/08/conviction/#comment-116135 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:39:09 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=158#comment-116135 I know this is an old thread but I’d like to chime in since the OP didn’t bother.

Why would the Holy Spirit convict the world of righteousness? This is a 3 part answer that clearly states the role of the Holy Spirit.

Convict the world of sin because they do not believe. Once someone realizes they are sick, they realize they need a Dr. The law reveals sin and the need for a savior.

Of righteousness, because I go to My Father and YOU SEE Me no more. He’s obviously speaking to his disciples/church. Scripture clearly states that faith in Jesus (becoming born again) makes us the righteousness of God in Christ. We are now righteous! No more sinner… you can still struggle with sin but you’re not a “sinner”. I am the righteousness of God in Christ and therefore, the Holy Spirit corrects me, doesn’t convict me of sin and only reminds me of my righteousness which helps me grow closer to Him and farther from my sin.

Of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. Pretty simple statement here. We know that satan lost the keys and his power at the cross. He was judged and found guilty but still awaiting sentencing! (Great White Throne Judgement).

He doesn’t have the power most think he does but he’s a master at telling us lies to us from being extraordinary people. He’s a punk and has no authority in a believers life unless we grant it to him.

Hope that clears things up. :)

of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by John Plummer http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116134 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:08:43 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116134 Does Kingdom of God sanction violence as a tool? This has been on my heart for many years. I simply cannot see violence as a way of the Kingdom. The Jews were expecting a messiah who would forcefully, and with great violence, establish the Kingdom in the world. And they rejected him because his Kingdom was not of the world(did not act in worlds way). Today many Christians still hold that his Kingdom will be established in the world through great violence (the return of Christ and those “saved” on horses with swords) to effectively commit genocide on all who have rejected Jesus.
Kingdom of God fights not against flesh and blood but in the spirit. As we take our anointed place and battle in the spirit, as we take our anointed place and respond with the love of the Father, the world will see the manifestation of the sons and daughters of God that they long for.
Your statement: “Ultimately I think we have created a world where guns are unfortunately necessary to some degree – for now at least”. I don’t believe the ways of the Kingdom follow the lesser of evils. Although they may be difficult the Kingdom always has ways that are not evil.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by John Plummer http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116133 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:02:36 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116133 Does Kingdom of God sanction violence as a tool? This has been on my heart for many years. I simply cannot see violence as a way of the Kingdom. The Jews were expecting a messiah who would forcefully, and with great violence, establish the Kingdom in the world. And they rejected him because his Kingdom was not of the world(did not act in worlds way). Today many Christians still hold that his Kingdom will be established in the world through great violence (the return of Christ and those “saved” on horses with swords) to effectively commit genocide on all who have rejected Jesus.
Kingdom of God fights not against flesh and blood but in the spirit. As we take our anointed place and battle in the spirit, as we take our anointed place and respond with the love of the Father, the world will see the manifestation of the sons and daughters of God that they long for.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Helen Watson http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116132 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:54:09 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116132 Good point, Phil! Nice to see you online! :-)

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Becky http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116131 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:50:05 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116131 I guess I’m not sure why everyone only sees guns as something that only can be used as violence towards other people. My family has always only used them for recreational shooting and for supplying game for us to eat. I don’t see them as any more dangerous than the knife you have in your kitchen, the cigarette other people smoke around me, the alcohol that people drink to excess, the sugar and processed food we are given, and the cars that are driven every day. I guess every one has their own fears that they have to overcome. And banning guns is definitely caused by fear. I don’t walk around with one on me, but I don’t fear those who do either. If the US did decide to ban guns would I turn mine in? Probably. But I would also take up bow hunting, so would that be banned next? And if guns were banned would gun violence stop? I doubt it, criminals don’t care about laws. I don’t depend on guns for my personal protection, I live from the supernatural and have no fear of what man wants to do to me. But I understand how if you are not rooted in your true identity as a supernaturally protected Child of God that the natural world can be a fearful place. Do I think the government should ban guns? No, because it won’t solve any problems and our natural constitution is very clear about giving citizens the right to own guns. But if Chrisitans were living the life they were truly meant to live then even if a ban did happen, they would have no need to fight it or disobey. It’s all a matter of perspective and facing fears based upon where your trust lies really.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Chris http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116130 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:35:24 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116130 Have you looked at Israel lately? Even their teachers carry guns. Do you know why? If they laid down their weapons of defense then their enemies would destroy them with weapons of war.

As long as the bad guys have guns, the good guys should have them too.

Unfortunately, there is evil in this world, and it doesn’t listen to please and thank you’s. It listens to power.

For this reason, when Jesus returns, he returns in power with an army. Not even Jesus can TALK men into being peaceful if they don’t want to be.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Phil Drysdale http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116129 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:30:32 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116129 Hi Jennifer,

Great questions.

I think on the whole my commentary was not on police, soldiers etc – but on a personal level, should a Christian fight for the right to possess a firearm.

That said the topic of police, soldiers etc are very interesting.

I personally don’t know how much I hold to Jesus being pro-war – and even “just war” theory came into play hundreds of years after Jesus. The early church were ALWAYS against fighting in wars and responding in violence until Christianity became Romanised.

There are plenty of police forces around the world which function without guns. A close family member of mine is a police officer here in the UK and they never have to bear arms and only on extreme cases ever call out officers who are specifically trained to use weapons. Even then VERY rarely do they get fired. Simply put we don’t see guns as a solution.

In fact I read in the news just last month that a group of US police chiefs flew over to Scotland to discuss with them how they handle violent criminals and were amazed that at no point did we use guns. And even the weapons at our disposal (non-fatal weapons like taser and batons) were VERY rarely used to de-escalate and dis-arm violent criminals)

Ultimately I think we have created a world where guns are unfortunately necessary to some degree – for now at least. But my point still stands I do not want us as Christians to say that Jesus would be happy about that fact or worse… support it! Jesus in all his teachings was off the scale non-violent, as were his disciples and the first 2-300 years of his followers!

Thanks for bringing up the point though – it’s a super complex one that I think we do need to think about and address.

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Jennifer http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116128 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:22:05 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116128 Police should lay down their weapons? Soldiers? Guards? It’s just not that simple. Do we have any obligation to protect the innocent? I’m fine with martyrdom for myself…but should I decide that others around me should be martyrs too?

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Phil Drysdale http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116127 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:17:08 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116127 Yup it’s been a long time coming :)

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Comment on The definitive list of why Jesus wouldn’t want you to lay down your weapons by Gary Bird http://www.phildrysdale.com/2016/01/definitive-list-jesus-doesnt-want-lay-weapons/#comment-116126 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:15:36 +0000 http://phildrysdale.com/?p=4924#comment-116126 SWEET LORD PHIL’S BACK!!!!!!!! ;o)

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